November 2, 2005

To continue on...
Farlas

I'm rather excited by your arguments, it goes right along with a Bible class assignment I must do.

I really should thank you for bringing these things up. You are making me think and research why I believe what I believe. Many people do not get around to this until they are a bit older than I.

Anyway, now that I have three posts to reply to, you must forgive me if I become choppy, but please bear with me. XD

First, there is a difference between praying for/with and praying to. I have prayed with many people, for many people, but never too anyone but God. No where does it say in the Bible that praying to Peter, Paul, or Mary (hehe!)shall get you your request answered. They are dead and in Heaven, the end. I have yet to find a place where it says the saints in Heaven can hear our prayers, let alone intercede for us. Romans 8:27,31-39 31.

Second, Mary was not holy, she was favored among women, but not holy. And may I remind you, Jesus had numerous brothers and sisters, none of which were born with out help of Joseph. As for the wedding in Cana, I do not think that particular incident shows in any way, shape, or form that she would be granted heavenly intercession rights. If you are referring to people that have "seen" Mary since her death, I would speculate that either it was heat, bad food, or dellusion. A recent study was done on people who have "seen" UFO's, your side of the pond too. I dont' recall exactely what that says, but it reinforces my argument.

I must remind you though that the Devil is not beneath using truth to later trip people up. May I direct your attention to "Macbeth" and "The Screwtape Letters." Often our adversary shall use truth (the tempting of Eve) to decieve. Did he not say she would know right and wrong like God? Did she not? He only failed to mention the grievous ramifications that would occure after she ate of the fruit.

Thank you!!! I looked all over the place for that verse! Now, as for Paul: We must understand that the role of women at that time in society was different. We cannot discount all of someones God inspired teachings though because of something that was part of society at that point. If we did, then we would not look at alot of the O.T., but we do and we learn great truths that we can still use in lives, through principals today.

I wouldn't suppose that some would say Jesus is the only way so it is relative, I would suppose that since God said it is true though!

Whoa! Whoa! Wait a second, Jesus is love, but love is not Jesus. Just because you live a good life certainly does not mean you shall get to heaven. John 3:16, Romans 3:10, 23, 5:12 and numerous other passages. The New Testament is chuck full of passages explaining this principal.

Actually, I have been to a catholic church. I caught the end of Mass at St. Patricks Cathedrel in NYC, I have been to numerous catholic funerals, and many of my relatives are catholic or Serbian Orthodox. Why do you ask?

Personally, I think every denomination has it's problems, but most Baptist problems exist with in preacher's preferences.

I have two reasons why I do not think all churches should unite under one banner. One, it leads to the world church in Revelation, two, no where in the Bible does it say that our churches should unite under one banner, save that of heaven.

Um, I'm not jewish, nor middle-eastern. I am in no way related to Abraham. Noah and Adam yes, Abraham, no.

Your third post about prayer confused me, but I think I covered it above.

In conclusion, I recomend you do a good reading of the book of John and teh book of Romans, and in addition you read "The Screwtape Letters". It just may rock your theological world.

As for my church, First Baptist Church of Wixom. Nah, I'll tell you when you're too nosy. :O)))) HEhehehe!

Yeah, I do think it is just us. *wind blows* Ah well. We'll have fun! HEHEHEHE!

Farewell!
-Farlas Ava