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Frodo the Hero Thing
Posted by Lem on 03-25-04
while i agree that it took strength and endurance and all that stuff to carry the ring TO mount doom, and that was a great feat, i never really...

Frodo the Hero
Posted by Artanis on 03-26-04
I just thought I would throw my two cents in on the Frodo as hero discussion. I don't think Frodo was any more a hero then the rest of the...

Re:frodo's Credit, and Did Others Know
Posted by Danny on 03-26-04
While I agree that Sam is very heroic, I also have noticed tons of posts that say he is a bigger hero than Sam. In my opinion, Sam gets lots of...

More Frodo
Posted by kat on 03-26-04
Sam definatly is one of the hero's of LotR. Frodo couldn't get to Mount Doom without him, however he didn't carry the burden of the ring. This...

Artanis
Posted by kat on 03-27-04
I agree with you. It took the entire fellowship to destroy the...

Of Course It Took the Entire Fellowship
Posted by Danny on 03-28-04
I never was trying to say anything to the effect that any efforts other than Frodo's weren't heroic nor praiseworthy. Of course it took the entire...

Gandalf's Death
Posted by Elendur on 03-29-04
To Niel of Mithlond: A while back(at the end of January) you posted saying that Gandalf had not, as I had said, gone to Valinor but had returned to...

To Elendur: Idea for R
Posted by Lem on 03-29-04
R could be Ring's Destruction! i, myself, wasn't too bothered by it, but hey, it's an idea! ...or, if you (SOMEHOW) didn't like Rivendell, you...

Frodo and R
Posted by Tuor on 03-30-04
Hey all, it's been awhile, but I have some time to spare now. Frodo is definitely the hero of LOTR, but I have to agree that he could not have done...

Frodo
Posted by Orangeblossom on 03-30-04
It has been a while, because every time I have pulled up the page it has been mini at an unreadable size and I do not know how to fix it. I have to...

R: Race Across the Gorgoroth
Posted by Elendur on 03-30-04
This really should have gone under Q(uest of Mount Doom), but I didn't get around to it then. "Ten thousand orcs lie between Frodo and Mount...

Frodo the Hero
Posted by Lilly on 03-30-04
When I first read the LOTR, I wasn't looking for the Hero. When I finished, I didn't say to myself, "he was definitely the best," or "this guy...

Hi Im New , Suggestions for R
Posted by celebrimbor on 03-31-04
Hi Im a long time reader of this forum and have had an interesting time reading Elendur's A-Z. My suggestion for R would be the Rammas (spel?) or...

Lilly
Posted by Artanis on 03-31-04
Lilly, I would like to thank you for your last post. Your words were well picked and really honored Tolkien's point (I believe). I completely...

Hobbit Interpretation
Posted by David on 03-31-04
How about a new discussion topic... I have a question that I would like to hear other people's opinions on. If and when Peter Jackson films...

S: Shelob
Posted by Elendur on 03-31-04
"What?" you're thinking. "Didn't like Shelob? Is there any part of the movie this guy DOES like?" There are several, but the A-Z is made for...

Sorry Celebrimor
Posted by Elendur on 03-31-04
To Celebrimor: I called you Celeborn in an earlier post. Sorry.

The Hobbit
Posted by Elendur on 03-31-04
To David: If your definition of Tolkien purists means people who think the movies should be filmed word for word from the books, or have no changes,...

Hobbit - Keep It Dark
Posted by Man Of Westernesse on 04-01-04
Hi Been an age since I posted here. Account got screwed up & every attampt to reset it failed until just now. Good subject on the Hobbit.

Re: Hobbit Interpetations
Posted by Danny on 04-02-04
The Ring did have some small effects on Bilbo in my mind. Recall that he later felt it silly to tell a different story to his finding the Ring. It...

Arwen's Sword and the Hobbit
Posted by David on 04-02-04
To all readers: After posting my question about "The Hobbit" I came up with the ultimate answer...write and film scenes that would serve both...

Outrage! Outrage!
Posted by Lilly on 04-02-04
GLAREGLAREGLOWERSCORN!! Oh, the Hobbit's being made, all right, and McKellan's back, and Serkis's back, BUT PETER JACKSON...

Hobbit Idea
Posted by Thorongil on 04-02-04
When Thorin, or whoever, is explaining the history of the dwarves in the Hobbit (if it's made), then he should talk about the battle of the Last...

The Hobbit
Posted by Lem on 04-02-04
I can't wait to see what happens with the Hobbit! I hope that PJ casts the same actors in the Hobbit as he did in LotR (Gandalf, Bilbo, etc.). I'd...

The Hobbit
Posted by Jevic of Highgate on 04-02-04
If Peter Jackson was to make The Hobbit into a movie, I dont think that it would be very hard at all to keep people intrested. I didnt think that...

If Messengers Were Still Shot.....
Posted by Man Of Westernesse on 04-02-04
.... then Lilly would be in a bit of bother. My god what terrible news. Now maybe Mr.Paul Andersson will be capable of doing a good job, & maybe...

Relief
Posted by Man Of Westernesse on 04-02-04
Lilly, Looks like its just an April Fools... Have a closer look at the web page you quoted. It ai'nt even "New Line" its "Nw Line"...

Lily, Its Ok!
Posted by Magic Fire on 04-02-04
Lily, you might already know this now, but the Hobbit thing with its own link and all was a very elaborate April Fools Joke. Don't feel bad, it...

Foolish Me!
Posted by Lilly on 04-02-04
I had a good laugh today at what a fool I am!! The Hobbit movie thing was a hoax and I took it hook, line, and sinker. Please let the ridicule and...

T: Tower of Sorcery
Posted by Elendur on 04-02-04
OK, this one's a nitpick, but I'll do it anyway. "Paler indeed than the moon ailing in some slow eclipse was the light of it now, wavering and...

What a Great Idea!
Posted by Thorongil on 04-04-04
The April Fools joker is onto something. So what if Peter Jackson didn't do the Hobbit. Wouldn't it be cool if, sometime in the future, different...

Re: What a Great Idea!
Posted by Lem on 04-04-04
hmmm that's an interesting thought, but...i'm not sure. since PJ's version was the first i saw, his images would be "the original" to me, so...

Tark Sing Song
Posted by Annatar on 04-05-04
Anyone notice the song Aragorn sang at his coronation? I thought it was a lovely touch, from Unfinished Tales, a quote from Elendil, if memory...

Good Part
Posted by Thorongil on 04-05-04
The song was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Annatar, if it means what you thought it meant, then it was a perfectly fitting thing to have in...

Coronation Song
Posted by RaggedyAnndy on 04-06-04
Hey all. I don't know if you know this, but that song is actually in the book. Aragorn just doesn't sing it.

Confirmation
Posted by Sirindu on 04-07-04
Hello all, I can confirm that Annatar was right in the lyrics of the song, or at least those were the lyrics used in the movie. Namarie,...

Tolkien
Posted by Jevic of Highgate on 04-07-04
Ok so its kinda fun to believe that the whole tale of Bilbo and Frodo and of King Aragorn is actually history, as in it actually happened a LONG...

Son of Gondor
Posted by Strider on 04-07-04
I wonder if im the first one to think about this, but does anyone think that Boromir doesn't get the amount of regognition he deserves?

Re:son of Gondor
Posted by Danny on 04-08-04
Yeah I think Frodo's situation is an interesting one to consider. I would like to think that his end was a noble sacrifice, and that he was a hero.

Re: Son of Gondor
Posted by Sirindu on 04-08-04
I completely agree with Strider. I have watched The Fellowship of the Ring with many people, fellow Tolkien fans included, and most of the time a...

Re: Son of Gondor
Posted by Lem on 04-08-04
i completely agree!!!!! i don't know HOW many arguments i've had with people who thought he was evil! In one part of the Fellowship, he's...

More Son of Gondor Disc.
Posted by Pip on 04-09-04
I thought about what you said Danny, and it's true that Boromir did not in fact save the hobbits, because they would not have died even had he not...

Borimir
Posted by Danny on 04-12-04
Yeah, I agree with you about Boromir. I suppose I was picking appart a word choice which in and of itself was unfair to do 8). I didn't like the...

More Boromir
Posted by Tuor on 04-12-04
Yes, I suppose Boromir's death was somewhat in vain, since Merry and Pippin (and Sam and Frodo, if they hadn't left) would not have been killed...

Sons of Gondor
Posted by Orangeblossom on 04-12-04
I think that Boromir's death was not in vain, because even though he was not saving Merry and Pippin he was saving himself. Boromir had just fallen...

New Works?
Posted by Jevic of Highgate on 04-12-04
I wonder... Well...basically all the rules are there, the entire history of Middle Earth is set. Do you think that there will ever be anyone who...

Boromir the Son of Gondor and Hobbits
Posted by Pippin on 04-12-04
I think that Boromir's sacrafice was not in vain because if he had not protected Merry and Pippin the rest of the fellowship would have all thought...

Re: Disaster for Merry and Pip
Posted by Danny on 04-13-04
As I said, I agree that Boromir did the right thing even though I was the one who posed the devil's advocate question. I don't agree that it would...

Trailer Music????
Posted by Marxmoore on 04-13-04
does anyone know what the music was to the trailer to EAs ROTK game? i'm sure its a classical peice and not actually in the film (or game) but i'm...

Re: New Works
Posted by Sirindu on 04-13-04
It's called "Fan Fiction" Jevic. And yes, people have written some Fourth Age fan fiction. I have never read any of it, therefore I do not know...



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