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Middle- Earth Politics
Posted by Elendur on 09-07-04
No, Annatar, you were not nominated. That was just my hypothetical version of the election. Something tells me you won't have any trouble getting a...

Like I Said...
Posted by Ar-Pharazon on 09-08-04
If it's one thing I have learned (sitting here in the Halls of Mandos), never listen to the babblings of Annatar, and, boy, does he love to...

Do You Hear That?
Posted by Annatar on 09-09-04
...Ar-Pharazon? Yes, that's the smallest violin in the World, playing just for you. The Valar handed over control to Eru because they wanted to...

RotK EE
Posted by Pip on 09-13-04
Well... i dunno if any of you noticed, but it was announced not too long ago that the ROTK EE will be released on December 14th. *weeping...

LotR Video Games...
Posted by Sirindu on 09-13-04
Is anyone here into video games? If so, what type of video game would you most like to see LOTR made into? We've already had several...

Re: Sala Baker
Posted by Sirindu on 09-13-04
Wow. Sauron as Aslan, reality check. lol, that's something...

Do You Hear That? - Part Ii
Posted by Ar-Pharazon on 09-13-04
Ah yes, the smallest violin in Ea playing for Sauron. Sauron and his bad luck. I can imagine the whining from the void, "If only Gollum had not...

Chris Lee
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 09-13-04
I know we finished this conversation days ago but I just found out that Chris Lee (Saruman) is going to be in the "Charlie and the Chocolate...

A Couple of Quick Points
Posted by Everett on 09-13-04
First of all, re:Re:Everett, Annatar, that made no sense whatsoever. I can follow some of the individual ideas (and if I read them correctly,...

Numenor and What Did He Say?
Posted by Tuor on 09-13-04
Eru had it in for Numenor ever since they stopped worshipping him and started worshipping Morgoth, following the advice of none other than Sauron.

Re: Everett Et Al
Posted by Annatar on 09-14-04
Everett, can't say as I remember the bit about stalker etc etc. What is so incoherent about explaining why in the movie, Sauron was so difficult to...

Re:haradian Flu
Posted by Everett on 09-14-04
Annatar, the flu bit made sense. It's what you wrote immediately after that seemed somewhat incoherent. However, I'm somewhat skeptical (or...

'tis the Season to Be Eager!
Posted by Bob Praz on 09-14-04
Yes, two of the LOTR-related things I have been most anticipating for some time are soon – well, if a few months could be considered soon – coming...

Question/comment
Posted by Nienna on 09-14-04
Hello everyone. I've been reading all of your posts, and the thoughts that so many of you put into them are just amazing to me. Anyway, a couple...

Re: 'tis the Season to Be Eager
Posted by Sirindu on 09-17-04
Yep, I love RTS games too. Age of Empires amongst my favs. But I will admit that I failed to mention them in my post. I had forgotten about WotR...

Gimli Axe is a Replica...
Posted by Sirindu on 09-17-04
I don't know how to post news, or even if I can, but I needed to tell ya'll somewhere... The Axe of Gimli on sale on Ebay is NOT the original...

Sony Wins Mgm Bidding.
Posted by Sirindu on 09-17-04
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Time Warner Inc. said Monday it would no longer pursue film studio Metro-Goldwyn-Meyer Inc., saying the entertainment...

Incoherent Babble Explained
Posted by Annatar on 09-17-04
"The only reason my deep sultry voice was so hard to understand was because I had got a strain for the Harad-flu." ~ Goes without explaining...

Pc Games and Typo
Posted by Annatar on 09-17-04
Oh first, typo in last post, it should have been Slan not Failte. Ill blame the early morning start. Computer games... Id love to see a strategy...

Spot On
Posted by Ar-Pharazon on 09-17-04
Tuor, You are, of course, correct. Although I do not believe Sauron could have "controlled" Ar-Pharazon, he certainly could manipulate him and...

Perfectly Coherent Babble!
Posted by Man Of Westernesse on 09-17-04
Buala Bos Annatar. Personally I have always found your babble to be highly coherent. I think it's just the lack of understanding/appreciation out...

Great Site...
Posted by Sirindu on 09-19-04
Hiyo everybody, I am a moderator on a Tolkien site and we need some new members! You guys are great people and I thought I'd give it a try here...

No One Will Help Nienna??
Posted by Nienna on 09-20-04
Can no one in this forum pity Nienna? I thought some of you would have an answer for me. It was a legitimate question, guys...I hope someone can...

Re: Man of Westernesse, Nienna
Posted by Annatar on 09-21-04
Man Of Westernesse, good to hear from you again. We Donegal men have to stick together. Thanks for the support. *Buys Man Of Westernesse a Paddy*...

Re: Nienna
Posted by G on 09-21-04
I can only offer an opinion here; absolutely no hard facts or quotations to back it up. I have always assumed it to be the case that the exiled...

Games and Re:nienna
Posted by Tuor on 09-21-04
I like the Sodom and Gomorrah analogy, Ar-Pharazon (like we really need another parallel between LOTR and the Bible, ha). Yeah, I meant manipulate,...

Regarding What Tuor Said...
Posted by Sirindu on 09-22-04
I could've sworn that I mentioned The Third Age, oh well. A few things you said about the game were slightly incorrect and I would also like to...

Regarding What I Said...
Posted by Tuor on 09-23-04
Well, from what you corrected/added, now the game sounds even more awesome. I didn't really want it to be like a lot of RPGs where your other guys...

Mood
Posted by Annatar on 09-23-04
Just here, thinking about what Tuor wrote. When I first read the LOTR, the mood was everything, especially at the start, Shadow of the Past (chapter...

Tuor...
Posted by Sirindu on 09-24-04
First of all, sorry if I just posted a completely BLANK message, didn't mean to. Yes, Tuor, I'm literally learning more and more info on TTA...

If Only We Were Directors...
Posted by Tuor on 09-24-04
I agree, the mood was definitely stronger in the books. You got the impression that every hobbit would shudder at the slightest mention of the word...

Where is the (black) Horse and the (black) Rider?
Posted by Bob Praz on 09-25-04
Just to tell you all, if you don’t know already, the official movie site has finally posted the specs for the ROTK EE. The official release date:...

Mind if I pop in?
Posted by Pip on 10-02-04
Hey all, It is I. I just read some of the recent articles and I SO totally agree. I really, really missed the darkness. (a sentence that Pip...

'Battle for Middle-Earth' news
Posted by Bob Praz on 10-02-04
For those interested: I don’t think this has been posted on many fan sites yet (apart from the gaming sites), but there’s bad news for the Battle...

Orlando Bloom DOESN'T propose...
Posted by Sirindu on 10-07-04
Not that I care at ALL, but I enjoy putting rumors to rest. :P So yea, I heard it from Extra, who heard it right from his mouth...

Just my luck...
Posted by Pip on 10-07-04
As soon as I start paying attention to the debate again there just seems to be nothing to talk about, and everyone leaves. Here, new question...

Ian and Sean (Astin)
Posted by Sirindu on 10-08-04
Topic. Yeah. I would say that Ian's performance was the only performance other than maybe, Arwen, who was virtually flawless. This may be speaking...

RE: Just My Luck...
Posted by Elendur on 10-10-04
We don't leave, we just lurk. I'd say Sean Bean. My bro read a thing that was saying which parts were cast right, and it said Sean Bean...

ARWEN??
Posted by Lem on 10-10-04
Arwen?? Flawless?? what? I, for one, didn't much like the choice of Liv Tyler. I mean, she did an okay job, but I think they definitely could've...

Oscar nominations missed
Posted by Bob Praz on 10-10-04
The "problem" with the Lord of the Rings is that there isn’t really any actor that particularly stands out: the entire cast was just flawless, and...

Re: Pip, and the LOTR Symphony
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 10-10-04
Ok, first off. Pip, this is the type of topic I LOVE!!!! Hopefully I wont get too excited! Of course- Best Supporting Actor- Sean Astin!!! For...

Re: Lem
Posted by Sirindu on 10-11-04
Ok, I knew someone wouldn't understand what I meant (I didn't explain it very well)... When I said that about Liv being "flawless" that is...

Re: Sirindu
Posted by Lem on 10-11-04
Oh, okay, i get it now. sorry about that explosive little post. I agree that Sir Ian McKellen should have won the best supporting actor for...

Best supporting actor
Posted by Lilly on 10-12-04
Sean Astin did Sam very well...for the most part (though I its the writers that had Sam actually leave when Frodo told him to...grrrr)...

Re: Lilly
Posted by Sirindu on 10-13-04
I challenge you to think of one instance where her lines were delivered horribly. You probably can, but I haven't been able to think of one yet.

Re:Re:Lilly
Posted by Lilly on 10-13-04
How do you mean, delivered a line horribly? As in, mispronunciations, or bad phrasing, or what? I don't know...I won't say anything against...

Re: Sirindu
Posted by Elendur on 10-13-04
I can't think of any major flaws in Arwen's performance either, but you did say you could name a flaw in every other major performance so...

Responses
Posted by Sirindu on 10-15-04
Lilly first... You have some good points and maybe she did overdo it a little sometimes, but I still think that she had the least flaws in dialogue...

Actors
Posted by Tuor on 10-19-04
Yeah, I agree Sean Astin was great as Sam. Though, yeah, the leaving Frodo part was the opposite of Sam. Seriously, who here was hoping Sam would...

Re:Tuor, and a word on Legolas
Posted by Lilly on 10-21-04
Yes, even in the book I wished Sam would just smack the living daylights out of gollum! But I would have been satisfied with him just NOT leaving...



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