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RE: Tour, about the EE...
Posted by Sirindu on 10-21-04
The EE comes out December 17th I believe. I know its not in November, it was but then they changed it because (I heard) they wanted more time to...

EE SPOILERS
Posted by Tuor on 10-22-04
All right, you asked for it, but I figured I should at least warn people. I guess it's not that big of a deal, but maybe some people want to be...

Legolas and Re: Sirindu
Posted by Tuor on 10-22-04
Ha, that's funny about Legolas. I never noticed that before, but now you mention it, he is sort of Master of the Obvious in the movie, isn't...

Evil Shadowfax
Posted by Thorongil on 10-22-04
What was up with shadowfax kicking Denethor into the fire? Was it supposed to be funny? Ha ha, he's on fire!! Oh, and Frodo pushing Gollum into the...

Responses to Thorongil and Tuor
Posted by Sirindu on 10-27-04
Thorongil, yea, there were some pretty sad things that they did in the changes to the movie. Oh well, that's what I keep trying to say, not enough...

Re: Lily
Posted by Lem on 10-27-04
that was one of the best posts i've seen in a while!! haahhaahahaha really cracked me up, but SO TRUE!!! in FotR when they're on the mountain...

In Defense of Legolas
Posted by Everett on 10-27-04
Legolas may have turned into Captain Obvious the Boy Wonder in the movies (Holy distractions, Gandalf! A diversion!), but at least he recognized it...

re: Evil shadowfax
Posted by Lilly on 10-27-04
Yeah, Shadowfax was a little out of line pushing Denethor onto the fire and all...but I guess the bad example was set by Gandalf, what with the...

Being the 'new kid on the block...'
Posted by Farlas on 10-27-04
Being the "new kid on the block" and not being very computer saavy, I would greatly appreciate someone informing me of the most recent debate...

Me and this site.
Posted by Requiem on 10-27-04
It seems to me that I am checking on this site less and less with every passing month. The release of the movies has just about brought this...

Orders
Posted by Annatar on 10-27-04
Orders, orders we all have orders... you think that being told to go to bed is an order... to open fire on the defenseless... (Babylon 5 Londo, most...

The Fourteenth
Posted by Pip on 10-27-04
Ya'll are upping the date... please don't... I almost believed it... and it made me sad :( No, the real release date for the ROTK EE is...

Reply to Annater
Posted by Thorongil on 10-29-04
What about (in the book) Beregond disobeying orders and leaving his post?

Re: To the New Kid on the Block
Posted by Louimir on 10-29-04
Whew! It's great to be back to the forums. Hey, new kid! Welcome to the forum. Well, the title "debate" might give the impression of a "formal...

Re: Orders
Posted by Louimir on 10-29-04
Well, Faramir did what any child who truly loves a parent who obviously loves another brother or sister far more--that is to win the heart of that...

Do you think...
Posted by Farlas on 10-31-04
Do you think that Arwen and Legolas could have been distant relations? I read something in the Silmarillion that made me think perhaps it could be...

Re:In Defense of Legolas
Posted by Farlas on 10-31-04
I am with you Everett! I mean he can only says the lines given to him. So really it's all the writers fault that Legolas is...

Orders orders...
Posted by Annatar on 11-01-04
Beregond, was disobeying an unethical order, basically to facilitate the burning of a live person. Orders against human/orc rights should be...

Legolas and the Writers
Posted by Sirindu on 11-01-04
Yeah, you can't lay all the blame on Orlando. But you CAN still pin some of it on him... A lot of actors are brave enough to stand up to the...

The 'movie' Legolas
Posted by Bob Praz on 11-01-04
I would just like to say that in my opinion there was nothing horribly wrong with either Orlando's performance or his lines.

Re:Legolas and the writers
Posted by Farlas on 11-02-04
That is a good question. Where did the bad Legolas dialogue come from? I mean they spent all sorts of time trying to make sure the elves seemed like...

What is...
Posted by Farlas on 11-02-04
In the book, why did Galadriel give Aragorn that green eagle brooch? What is the green eagle brooch anyway?

Orlando
Posted by Annatar on 11-02-04
He might be a nice guy but poor Orlando Bloom cant really act. He is a pretty boy who does wide eye looks of various combinations, with everything...

Elessar
Posted by Annatar on 11-03-04
Faerlas, the Eagle brooch is the Elessar, the Elfstone. Made by Celebrimbor or another elf in Gondolin... Enerdhil?

Writers
Posted by Pip on 11-03-04
Well now, if anyone wants my opinion (no one answer that), here it is: I don't think that the writers did a terribly bad thing in how they...

Have you seen...
Posted by Lilly on 11-05-04
...the movie up at the official site yet??? Have you seen the screen shots that theonering.net linked found?? There were a few pictures that...

Ending and Beginning
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 11-08-04
Since there have been no new discussions lately I thought I would ask a question...... Which movies beginning do you all like the best?

Re:Ending and Begining
Posted by Farlas on 11-09-04
Favorite ending, hands down, is the FOTR. In Dreams is the perfect song to end that movie in. Now, favorite begining...hmmm...

Beginning and End
Posted by Annatar on 11-09-04
FOTR and FOTR. For starters, what can match the prologue for impact, Sauron smiting left and right?!? I still wish we could have seen Gil-Galad...

beginning and end
Posted by Eonwe on 11-10-04
I like this question a lot and am very interested to see what other people's answers are. My favorite opening scene is definitely from...

Beginning and End
Posted by Lilly on 11-12-04
My favorite beginning is that of the FOTR. My favorite ending is that of the FOTR. In my opinion, the Fellowship was the most well-done of...

Beginning, end, and the Third Age
Posted by Bob Praz on 11-12-04
My favourite beginning would have to be TTT, I guess, like many others. I love the music and cinematography at the opening. FOTR not far behind...

Ending/Beginnings/Third Age
Posted by Sirindu on 11-15-04
Well I am with Bob for the best ending. I absolutely love the ending of ROTK. Awesome. Unbelievable. I don't know what to say, lol.

Why FotR is not the best LotR film
Posted by Eonwe on 11-16-04
Ladies and Gentlemen, The notion seems to be abroad (more so on fan sites like this than among the general film-going public) that Fellowship of...

Food
Posted by Annatar on 11-17-04
Eonwe, about the best part of the movie trilogy. For starters TTT comes 3rd, well actually I'd have it in 5th place, but seeing as there are only 3...

RE: Why FOTR isn't the best
Posted by Lilly on 11-17-04
It is true that the biggest, and perhaps most memorable scenes are to be found in the ROTK or TT, however, those two movies also contain the biggest...

Third Age
Posted by Lilly on 11-17-04
Well, I've been playing it for about a week now, and I'm enjoying it. I mean, the story line just completely trashes Tolkien's story, but the...

Number Three is number one
Posted by Bob Praz on 11-17-04
Don’t worry, Eonwe, I fully agree with you. ROTK was definitely my favourite. Although, as a movie, TTT comes in second place, my first experience...

Let's Turn That Around for a Minute
Posted by Everett on 11-17-04
Eonwe, your claim that FotR cannot be the best of the three movies because it does not have any of the best scenes is an interesting one, but it...

Who or Why do you think...
Posted by Farlas on 11-17-04
In the beginning of the FOTR, specifically at the scene where Sauron blows up (or whatever you wish to call it)they keep zooming in on some blondish...

About FOTR
Posted by Sirindu on 11-17-04
I think you're just plain wrong. Sorry. For one, you aren't looking at the movie as a whole. Which SOMEHOW is just different from the other...

Re: Faerlas
Posted by Sirindu on 11-19-04
Well I THINK I know who you think it was. And I think it was the same person, lol. I've noticed this a lot and tried to see who it was, and the...

At last, we understand one another, Frodo Baggins
Posted by Eonwe on 11-19-04
I actually agree with most everything that people have written in response to my previous post. These are not direct quotes. Annatar: There's no...

Re: Faerlas
Posted by Bob Praz on 11-19-04
I don't think the blond elf may have any particular importance; leastways in the movies. However, I read or heard a theory somewhere that it might...

Themes in LOTR
Posted by Thorongil on 11-19-04
For a change from the, 'which is best debate' (hear hear), I'd like to ask a question. (Hurray hurray) What important themes do you think run...

the elf guy
Posted by Lilly on 11-19-04
I think that guy would be Gil-Galad, who was originally identified and expanded upon in earlier drafts of the introduction segment of the movie.

Re: Themes
Posted by Lilly on 11-20-04
Friendship is definitely a theme that is to be found EVERYWHERE throughout the LOTR, and the one I hold most dear. Most of my favorite books are...

Re:Thorongil
Posted by Sirindu on 11-20-04
Firstly, I think this was a VERY good idea of something to discuss. Thank you... I could think of many important themes, but as for what I...

What I was thinking
Posted by Farlas on 11-21-04
I was thinking it was either Gil-Galad or Thranduil. Leaning more towards Gil-Galad than Thranduil, but I couldn't decide. I guess we'll never...

A Theme
Posted by Everett on 11-21-04
One of the themes that runs consistently through LotR is that help often comes in unexpected ways from unexpected sources. Or, to put it in a more...



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