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J: Journey Home
Posted by Elendur on 02-28-04
This post is about everthing from the time the Ring was thrown into Mount Doom to the time the hobbits reached Hobbiton. Keep in mind that I am...

Tolkien Satanic?????
Posted by Everett on 02-28-04
Jevic, I guess I can see your grandfather's point, especially considering that he hasn't read the books. However, his claim is ridiculous on its...

Beren and Luthien
Posted by Pippin on 02-28-04
In the Simarillion there is a chapter called Beren and Luthien. For my school project I decieded to make a mini movie about that chapter the only...

Gandalf's Wand?
Posted by RaggedyAnndy on 02-28-04
Hey all. I'm rereading "The Hobbit", and I see that in a few parts, it says something about Gandalf lighting up a wand, or something along those...

Sags
Posted by Lem on 02-28-04
Did any of you watch the Screen Actor's Guild Awards? Sean Astin started making a speech about labor in the US as the cast and crew accepted the...

About the Late Professor
Posted by Louimir on 02-28-04
Just to remind you, the late Prof. James Ronald Reuel Tolkien was a Roman Catholic and in one of his letters to a friend who was a priest, he wrote...

To Jevic of Highgate
Posted by Glamdring on 02-28-04
To answer your question, Tolkien was catholic and religion was really important for him. His mother was anglican, but she converted to catholicism...

K: Kingsfoil
Posted by Elendur on 02-29-04
OK, Kingsfoil. ...Er, the Houses of Healing. All right, it's a stretch, but kingsfoil is a major part of the Houses and I wanted to say something...

Re: Beren Movie and Catholicism V. Christianity
Posted by Everett on 02-29-04
Pippin, for more relevant material on Beren, read the chapter "Of the Ruin of Doriath." The part concerning Beren and Luthien is on pp. 282-283 in...

Awesome New LotR Related Rpg
Posted by GilGalad on 02-29-04
Attention all LOTR Fans! There is an awesome LOTR related RPG at this site: http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=w2qvn3kq Check it...

RotK #4
Posted by Eonwe on 02-29-04
Well, I saw Return of the King last night for the fourth time! I thoroughly enjoyed myself, although the end did seem slow. I noticed one thing...

Bill and Christianity
Posted by Took on 02-29-04
Hey everybody! Ok, I want everyone to think back to the last time they saw RotK. When the hobbits were comming back to the Shire and Frodo was...

PJ's Hommage to George Lucas
Posted by Everett on 02-29-04
The Phantom Mencae is on FOX as I write this, and Anakin is saying goodbye to his mother. The following exchange has just occurred: Anakin:...

'What Does Your Heart Tell You?'
Posted by Jevic of Highgate on 03-01-04
I HIGHLY doubt Aragorn's words to Gandalf had ANY connection with Star Wars. Its probably just coincidental. Because the saying is kinda...

Acadamy Awards
Posted by Lem on 03-01-04
This is the list of what Lord of the Rings was nominated for, and how it fared at the Oscars (which are finishing up as I type) 1. Art...

11 for 11!!! RotK: LotR Rules All!
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 03-01-04
I haven't posted for a while but I though I should be celebrating with all my Tolkien nut fans here. Go LOTR!! I am sooooo happy for PJ for FINALLY...

Go RotK the Movie of the Year^_^
Posted by Pippin on 03-01-04
Yeah ROTK good gob for winning all 11 ocsers ^_^ And a speacail good job to Peter Jackson best Director^_^ good luck on your King Kong movie. When...

Academy Awards
Posted by Magic Fire on 03-01-04
I would just like to take the opportunity to add to the overwhelming happiness that the Academy actually did what it should have done two years ago...

A Job Well Done!
Posted by acer rubrum on 03-01-04
I echo previous sentiments! 11 Academy Awards! What an honor and well deserved! A big standing ovation for Peter Jackson. . .props to Weta/Weta...

K: Kingsfoil
Posted by Elendur on 03-02-04
All right! RotK won best picture! Now let's get back to talking about how terrible it was. No, seriously, great movie. I'm just disapointed it...

Oscars
Posted by Glamdring on 03-02-04
I'm really mad at the Academy LOTR doesn't deserve any Oscar it's awfully bad Bakshi's version was so much better !!!! aha its a wonderful joke.

Exclamation Point
Posted by Eonwe on 03-02-04
Going into the Academy Awards, I was really interested in three categories: picture, director, score. For the rest of the categories, I wanted RotK...

Re: George Lucas and Awards
Posted by Brett C. on 03-02-04
Do not be to quick to dismiss Everett's thoughts about tributes to George Lucas. After all, as I pointed out in an earlier article the farewell...

Theoden
Posted by Thorongil on 03-03-04
I don't get it. When we first see Theoden he is being possesed by Saruman. Gandalf frees him, and what does Theoden do? Does he follow Gandalf's...

Wowza
Posted by Ashleigh on 03-03-04
I did a little victory dance right after LotR won best picture. I am so happy! Eleven awards out of eleven, it made up for those last two years of...

Re: George Lucas
Posted by Everett on 03-03-04
Hey, Brett, when I saw Theoden's death in RotK for the first time, that was exactly what I thought, too. In fact, I leaned over to the guy sitting...

John Howe Documentary
Posted by baztin on 03-03-04
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that there is being made a documentary on one of the worlds most famous Tolkien-illustrators, John Howe just this...

L: Lidless Eye
Posted by Elendur on 03-03-04
I'm actually surprised no one has posted about the incredibly fake electrical looking Lidless Eye of Sauron. WHY do they change something in the...

The Whole Journey
Posted by Isilwen on 03-03-04
I must admit how much of a nerd I am to you all. It's just that I've loved LOTR's for THE longest time!And it seems as if I've been there with...

About Beorn
Posted by Finrod Felagund on 03-03-04
Hello everyone, this is my first post here. I've read two posts about this guy, one of 'em askin' what kind of being is he, and other one where...

Re: L: Lidless Eye
Posted by Eonwe on 03-04-04
I agree with Elendur that in the movies Sauron always seems secondary to his army of orcs or even Saruman. The thought first struck me while...

Re: the Great Eye
Posted by Brett C. on 03-04-04
I must concur with Elendur that the Great Eye was a little - I don't know - special-effecty. I was also a bit disappointed with the sterotypical...

The Really Good Bits
Posted by Brett C. on 03-04-04
For a while now I have been saying I would post an article on the outstanding parts [for me] of ROTK. And though hereafter I may continue to grumble...

Re: Bretts Article and Finrods Comments
Posted by Magic Fire on 03-05-04
First of all, Kudos to Brett C's comments on what he really liked about The Return of the King. I too agreed with your choices and go one step...

M: Morannon
Posted by Elendur on 03-05-04
"Little time was left to Aragorn for the ordering of the battle. Upon the one hill he stood with Gandalf, and there fair and desperate was raised...

A Coment on the 'good Bits'
Posted by Elendur on 03-05-04
Brett: You said a lot about Theoden but I want to add one thing. What really made Theoden was that one line(which I was scared to...

Re: the Great Bits
Posted by Eonwe on 03-05-04
Brett C. got me all excited to mention a couple other favorite lines/moments from RotK, almost all of which come from Theoden and Eowyn. At...

Theoden
Posted by The Bruce on 03-05-04
I have to agree with Brett C. including Theoden's pre-charge speech in his "Really Good Bits." I will go further and say it was one of the best...

Three Year Wait
Posted by Thorongil on 03-06-04
When I heard that a movie was being made from the LOTR books, I was excited. The first things I thought about were the Balrog, the Ents destroying...

RotK DVD
Posted by Pippin on 03-06-04
Hey i havent posted for a while so hi to everybody and welcome to the people who joined when i was away... Any way here is my question: When is...

The Eye and a Question
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 03-06-04
The Eye of Souron (or should I say "the firey searchlight") was pityful! Sauron is supposed to be THE MOST feared evil being EVER. That never came...

Thanks Magic Fire and Elendur
Posted by Finrod Felagund on 03-07-04
I have to thank you for your comments about my article, hope that you have found it usefull. Re-reading Prof. Tolkien's statements about Beorn, he...

I Finally Got Use of a Computer!!
Posted by Niel of Mithlond on 03-07-04
HI, I am just very happy to be able to post again.(Long story)Here's some answers to past questions.. If i could live anywhere in M-E it would be...

An Agreement and a Special Praise
Posted by Bob Praz on 03-07-04
I fully agree with Frodo_Lives and many others: ROTK was by far the most powerful and emotional movie of the trilogy. It is the one movie, out of...

Tears From Pippin^_^
Posted by Pippin on 03-07-04
To Frodo_lives: I cried a bit in the movie as well... Mostly when Pippin had to say goodbye to Merry and When Pippin sang his song and when Frodo...

To Frodo_lives
Posted by Lem on 03-07-04
Don't worry, I cried like nobody's business during RotK. So many parts set me off...Merry and Pippin's first parting, Frodo sending Sam home,...

More Theoden
Posted by Thorongil on 03-07-04
Sir Bruce, My problem with Theoden in ROTK is in the part where he says, "Why should we help Gondor?" Gandalf saves him from a spell, gives him...

Lack of Subtlety
Posted by The Bruce on 03-08-04
Thorongil, I have to admit I was taken aback by Theoden's line "Why should we help Gondor?" There was more than a hint of bitterness and...

Tears
Posted by Took on 03-08-04
I've seen RotK 4 times. I've cried on odds but not evens. I cried the hardest the 3rd time, mostly because I was seeing it with my best friend.

My Favorite Moments
Posted by Danny on 03-08-04
It is nice to finally see the forum taking time to deliver the compliments and praises the movie deserves. I agree with the majority of the posts...



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