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Re: Lilly
Posted by Sirindu on 05-04-04
Lilly, Here are some of the answers I believe that you were looking for. Frodo's mother's name was Primula Brandybuck. Bilbo's mother was...

My Favorite
Posted by Lilly on 05-05-04
Well, although the ROTK EE DVD is yet to come, I feel that I have seen enough of all three movies to come up with an answer to the often-asked...

Mothers (and Fathers)
Posted by Tuor on 05-05-04
Well, I know Arwen's mother was Celebrian, the daughter of Galadriel and Celeborn, who wed Elrond. She was ambushed by orcs while crossing the...

Re: to Lilly
Posted by Niel of Mithlond on 05-05-04
Hi, Celebrian was Arwen's mom. She was the daughter of Galadriel and Celeborn. On a visit to Lorien, while crossing the Misty Mountains, she was...

Re: Son of Whom?
Posted by RaggedyAnndy on 05-05-04
Arwen's mother is mentioned in the books; her name is Celebrain (sp?). I believe I read that she was tortured to death by orcs, though I'm not...

Responses
Posted by Lem on 05-05-04
To Bob Praz: i have a fascination with Troy and ancient history in general, so i love movies that focus on them! an huge added plus is the prescence...

Maternal Relations and Others
Posted by - on 05-05-04
ok, firstly to Bob Praz: Oh Wow I absolutely cannot wait for Troy! I studied Ancient History at school in years 8 through 12, and did Troy as a...

Only Slightly Related to LotR
Posted by Tuor on 05-07-04
I know a good many of the characters are in the movie Troy. Our own Sean Bean plays Odysseus, and Orlando Bloom is Paris, there's the link to LOTR.

Eomer
Posted by Artanis on 05-10-04
Okay, so maybe no one else cares, but I read an article on Torn's website awhile back ago. The article interviewed someone from New Line (or...

Looking Over Recent Posts
Posted by Niel of Mithlond on 05-10-04
Hi, I see Lilly got the answers to her question. Theodwyn was Eowyn and Eomer's mom. Lilly, do you really believe that Tolkien was anti- feminist??

Q.'s for Aeven and Everbody
Posted by Niel of Mithlond on 05-10-04
Yeah, me again. I have the good fortune to have the time to post, so I won't waste it. Aeven: You wrote that you spoke some Sindarin recently.

Troy
Posted by Ashleigh on 05-10-04
I am anxious about Troy too! I think I read somewhere that it focuses more on Achilles and is not especially true to Homer's Illiad. Oh well.

Re: Neil
Posted by speedcorn on 05-11-04
Neil (of Mithlond), What you've heard about His Dark Materials being unfriendly to the church is quite true. As I mentioned in my previous post...

Oh, Heavens, No!
Posted by Lilly on 05-11-04
I don't believe that Tolkien was anti-feminist! I just thought it was funny how he has this Disney-like knack for killing off the mama. I don't...

Re: Eomer
Posted by Lem on 05-12-04
yes, i was very disappointed by eomer's apparant lack of existance in RotK! i really liked him when reading the book, and am appreciating him even...

Right and Wrong?
Posted by Elendur on 05-13-04
To Speedcorn: It's ironic that your last post is on a Tolkien sight, not because its not about LOTR, but because of its worldview. One of the...

Logic and Athiests
Posted by Thorongil on 05-14-04
I agree with Elendur, Pullman does not seem to hold Tolkien's values at all (I'm speaking from ignorance, all I know about him I've gotten from...

RotK DVD
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 05-19-04
I am so excited about the ROTK DVD release!!!! Wohoo! Is anyone having a LOTR part or marathon? I think I might. I might start from FOTR and go...

Poll
Posted by Sirindu on 05-25-04
Has anyone noticed the drastic changes that occured recently in the poll on the homepage? It's an outrage. For some reason Australia has jumped...

Back to Frodo/Hero Thing...
Posted by Lem on 05-25-04
I'm almost finished with RotK again, and I decided that Frodo IS much more of a hero than I've been giving him credit for. He was suffering so...

What Happened?
Posted by Elendur on 05-25-04
On the poll at the top of the home page, the votes for Australia just shot up. Anyone know how that happed? Not that I care that much; just trying...

Well, It Looks Like I Came Back at The Right Time
Posted by Everett on 05-25-04
Well, after another hiatus of several months, I've once again decide to show my face again in the Forum, bringing controversy with me, as always...

Balance, Everett, Balance
Posted by Ashleigh on 05-27-04
First, of all, I am wondering how you get so much time to write so much! Kudos, to you. However, I noticed that you speak about balance, both in...

To Ashleigh
Posted by Elendur on 05-28-04
There is a major fault in your argument. You make no distinction between the Christian church and Christianity. The church can overstep its bounds...

Let's See If I Can Work Tolkien Into This
Posted by Everett on 05-28-04
First of all, Ashleigh, thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it, and I'm glad you found my article interesting. Secondly, if I were to take on...

Re: Everett, Right on the Money
Posted by Danny on 05-29-04
Your reply was dead on the money as far as I am concerned on femenism and very close on authority. Your rebuttle of relative morality was perfect.

A Few Comment Maybe Some Questions
Posted by Pippin on 05-29-04
Hi Sorry I havent posted in a while... Any way I have to say how exited I am now that the ROTK is out on DVD ^_^ I'm a kinda slow person but this...

RotK, the Silmarillion
Posted by Frodo_Lives on 05-29-04
I was re-reading some of my old posts and I just had to laugh. I was so upset about TSOTS (The Scouring of the Shire) being expelled from the movie...

To Frodo Lives
Posted by Elendur on 05-29-04
If you like the Sil than The Unfinished Tales should definately be your next choice.

Making a Movie
Posted by Pippin on 05-29-04
Personaly I would rather Peter to take on the challenge of making a movie out of the chapter in the sirmerilion Beren and Luthien. I dont know its...

Random Thought
Posted by Lem on 05-30-04
i just finished reading RotK again, and i think it was probably my favorite of the 3 books! i didn't want it to end! just like the...

Re: to Everett
Posted by Niel of Mithlond on 05-31-04
Hello! Thank you for your posts on religion and moral relativism. Not only were they well written, but I also agree with you...

To Lem
Posted by Elendur on 05-31-04
Yes, there is a point in reading the appendices. They start out with some stuff that is in the Sil but quickly move on to other...

Re: Everett (moral Relativism)
Posted by speedcorn on 05-31-04
Everett, First let me start by looking at the example you used of you hitting me. Here is some of what you wrote: "For instance, let's...

More Moral Relitavism
Posted by Elendur on 06-01-04
Speedcorn, you say that in Everett's example even in his agitated state he would "know that it was wrong to hit me." That sounds as if he would...

Re: More Moral Relativism
Posted by speedcorn on 06-01-04
Elendur, "That sounds as if he would understand that his feelings, which you say dictate right and wrong, were in fact wrong." At no point...

I Must Be Stuped Because I Have Another Question
Posted by Pippin on 06-01-04
Hi I'm sorry because I have another dumb question. I know Faramir's mother is Fandula (spelling?) or something like that but how did she die?

Elendur
Posted by Sirindu on 06-01-04
Elendur, You have appeared to be relatively alone on your side of the argument, but I back you up completely. I think pretty much everything has...

My Review of Pullman
Posted by Danny on 06-01-04
Pullman's writing skill, is exceptional, and he weaves a great story. I read book one a few months ago and didn't pick up book 2 and three until a...

I'm Back!
Posted by Ashleigh on 06-02-04
Sorry it took so long to respond, but I am back to try to correct my mistakes! Everett, Edmund Burke certainly does fit you very well. I am...

Just Wanted to Say Something
Posted by Bergil on 06-02-04
I liked your review of His Dark Materials, and I am on book 3 at the moment. It is my second favorite trilogy next to Lord of the Rings. I don't...

Re: Pippin
Posted by Lem on 06-02-04
Denethor's wife's name was Finduilas (I just read this last night in the Appendices) and the book says that she withered in the city, and died...

A Change From the Usual...
Posted by Lilly on 06-02-04
I'm sitting here today, reading the debate going on and deciding NOT to post about it and display my ignorance (again)...so how about something...

To Speedcorn
Posted by Elendur on 06-02-04
In that case, there is probably no more we can do with this argument. I believe that the Bible is inspired by God, and consider it to be more...

To Pippin
Posted by Strider on 06-03-04
Aragorn and Arwens sons name was Eldarion. Recently, i have been reading the posts here, and i cant understand why we are discussing religion...

Re: Zork, and Pullman Last Thought
Posted by Danny on 06-03-04
I have plaid Zork, though the version I played was newer and wasn't text based. It was tremendously fun and absolutely hillarious. The version I...

Re: Aragorn's Son
Posted by Tuor on 06-03-04
The name of Aragorn's son is Eldarion, which means "of the Eldar". It took a while to find this, and I finally had to resort to the Guide to...

To Strider
Posted by Elendur on 06-03-04
Ironically, you have just entered a side of the argument you condemed. You said that there is no right or wrong religion. There is. I can say this...

Lord of the Rings Symphony
Posted by Magic Fire on 06-04-04
Hi Everyone: Just came back from Atlanta where my son and I had the priviledge of seeing Howard Shore conduct the Atlanta Symphony in the Lord of...

Curious
Posted by Ashleigh on 06-06-04
Sorry, Elendur. I'm kind of curious as to why you disagree that truth is relative. Christians believe in one kind of truth, Jews another, and...



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